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How
much did it take to write and record 'Good Luck'?
Some of the songs had a gestation period of about 2-3 years but in terms
of actual studio time,we started in late feb 96 and finished mixing in
june....about 2 weeks recording and 2 weeks mixing..
Do
you think that 'Good Luck' is your best record?
Can't compare it to the first which we recorded in a couple of days,but
I think we may have been on top of it all a bit more than 'Brood'...whether
it's better is for others to judge.
'Good
Luck' is almost totally dedicated to the sea. Is it just a metaphor? What
is your relationship to the water?
I wouldn't say almost totally but yes there are quite a few. I had a few
writing sessions down the Great Ocean Road in Victoria overlooking the
Aries Inlet lighthouse, rough ocean seas, cliffs etc. A very beautiful
place, rugged, intense... I am a piscean but I don't believe in that stuff.
The
'tusitala' is a very fascinating character. What can you tell me about
it?
I spent some time in Western Samoa a few years back where Robert Louis
Stevenson lived for a while and was given the tag tusitala. A tusitala
is a story teller,a person who carries the stories and mythologies and
bears the responsibility of passing them on so that they will not be lost
which in a culture with such a strong oral tradition is quite an honoured
and important role. This 'Tusitala' idea also has parallels within Papua
New Guinean and Aboriginal society. But I guess in the song Lighthouse
Keeper, it's about passing on stories within a relationship, of needing
and wanting to tell stuff, to communicate and share thoughts, songs, politics,
colours, ideas whatever... of keeping it vibrant and alive.
What is the 'Kitsch Parade' to you? Who do you refer to exactly?
Circuses
not bread...The conservative government in Victoria and now also the Federal
Government in Australia are cutting back quite severely on community services
and pumping resources into casinos, the olympic games, statues and mus eums.
Antipodean Thatcherism, parades and chest beating... playing the fiddle
whilst rome burns... economic rationalism over even the smallest hint
of compassion... that kind of thing.
Personally,
I think that 'Talk About Love' is the best track in the album. Does it
have a true story behind?
Some of it but it would be too long winded and personal to go into it.
Needless to say, when things fuck up horribly, that is the real test of
love and commitment...
You
talk about sirens. Do they have anything to do with 'Ulysses'?
No altho I think Dubliners is one of my favourite collection of stories.The
song is about the 40 degree straight off the desert north wind summer
days in Melbourne's summer that can bleed you lifeless... the whole city
doesn't sleep, the dogs howl, the sirens wail, and the strangest thoughts
run around the cities collective head throughout the whole evening John
Phillips co-wrote some of the songs in the album.
What
happened to 'Not Drowing Waving' and to the other members (apart from
Helen Mountfort )? How many albums did they release?
Ndw released 8 albums: 'Another Pond', 'The Little Desert', 'Cold and
the Crackle', 'Claim', 'Tabaran (together
with musicians from Rabaul in Papua New Guinea)'. 'Circus (Recorded at
Rockfield, Wales)' and two film soundtracks, 'Proof' and 'Hammers over
the Anvil'. The band split or more to the point , petered out a couple
of years ago. As to what the others are doing... John Phillips (the guitarist
and co-founding member with meself) and I still work together quite a
bit. This year we've done a few soundtracks together ... 3 australian
films... 'What I have Written' directed byJohn Hughes, 'River Street'
directed by Tony Mahood and 'Idiot box' directed by David Caesar plus
a Sony New York film called 'The Myth of Fingerprints' starring Roy Scheider
and Julianne Moore and Noah Wyliedirected by Bart Freundlich... plus John
has programmed loops and grooves for a couple of artists who I have produced...
he also married Barry Humphries' daughter and has put on a bit of weight!!
Rowan McKinnon (bass) edits Lonely Planet travel books and Russel Bradley
(Drummer) has a successful desktop publishing business...
Do
you read much poetry? In any case, who are your favourite writer and film
director/film?
mmmmm Tim Winton, Patrick White, Nick Hornby, Coen brothers, Yeats, Coppola,
Jane Campion, Raymond Carver...gee there's so many...
Classical music seems to be very important in your songs (just like
the Penguin Cafe Orchestra). What is your relation to classical music
and do you feel you owe anything to any band in this sense?
Helen was a trained classical musician from New Zealand who had very little
rock upbringing...she'd never heard 'Smoke on the Water' until she was
27!!! So, she comes from a contemporary classical perspective and I come
from the other way and I have immense respect for her musical vision and
her sense of feel as a cellist... The Penguin Cafe were an inspiration
at the beginning in the sense that their records seemed very loose, anything
goes, the songs just fell away at the end and the instrumentation was
largely acoustic... the dark moods and textures of arvo part are also
in there somewhere altho for me, The Velvets and Eno and Paul Kelly and
Bowie were probably more influential…
It's
difficult (especially for us) not to find links to Scottish pop in your
songs (i.e. Deacon Blue above all). What is the 'fil rouge' from Australia
to Scotland?
My ancestors are from Dundee..Andrew Carswell is from Glasgow... I guess
thats 2 out of 6. I've only been to Dundee once... seemed a bit lacking
somehow. I much prefer the other places in Scotland I have visited...
Lochailsh, Oban, New Cumnock!!!, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Easter road Footaball
Ground...(I wish I was there when Hibs beat Rangers a couple of months
ago). There's heaps of Scots in Australia. I guess there are similarities
in our attitude to the English, the harsh landscape, being countries that
are neither too big or too small...a sense of pervasive irony, the ability
to take the piss out of our selves.. .
A lot of people say I sound like the singer from Deacon Blue... I've liked
what I've heard of theirs but I haven't heard much.
What
has changed since "Brood"?
New drummer, Greg Patten. NDW has broken up so for Helen and I this is
the main potatoe... the Cake has consolidated as a band...we probably
take it a bit more seriously now... It, not ourselves...
Boring
but necessary question: why the name "My Friend the Chocolate Cake"? Does
it bring you back to childhood?
We were mucking around, it's the name of a song on an album by an experimental
electronic 1982 band called Ya Ya Choral from Sydney... I guess it's a
bit of a dieting joke.
Is that sorrow and pain that comes out of your cello and piano or is
just innate melancholy? What do you think is the natural engine of your
music?
Both...although I think over a whole gig or album, this melancholy and
tension is balanced out by other moods, but I think we do sparse, sad
and personal best...
Why
did you choose to cover a Magazine song in 'Brood'?
I think the Correct Use of Soap is a bit of a classic... Howard wrote
fantastic lyrics, Barry Adamson ain't too bad either and I always wanted
to play it... and Helen liked it too altho she'd never heard of them...
Where
will the musical road you're walking on bring you to? And where does the
'open road to salvation' lead'?
Who knows...more challenges, other audiences outside of the southern hemisphere,
strong songs sounds and albums... as for salvation ...no idea.
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