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great hunger for truth, it is for sure the feeling of major evidence raising
when listening to Lies Damned Lies' music or speaking with Charlie Irvine,
one of the three members of the Scottish group. Their music requires a
little bit more attention than the one we use to pay to the magma of anonymous
sounds which give soundtrack to our lives. Yes, because Lies Damned Lies'
songs belong to that world where every mask falls to leave the place to
something deeper and, probably, more spiritual to which we are not able
to give a name, but we feel absolutely necessary. "Our name is more a
kind of quiet dig at the music business" says Charlie, "As for whether
our music is a desperate search for truth, without wanting to sound too
pretentious I think it probably is. In LDL we force ourselves to write
about topics which are quite difficult and I think you tend to dig quite
deep within yourself to do this. In doing so you find out quite a lot
about yourself and the way you see the world".
So
LDL's music is a sort of Chinese wall against misery of real world, but
as it always happens the wall is not high enough to stop everyday news
to reach our existence and to rape our innocence. In this case the only
solution left is to cry against a cruel fate. "Lamentations was written
as a response to the amount of terrible news which comes flying at us
all the time. We hear about more disasters and tragedies than any other
generation in history, more instantly, and for many of us there is no
way to process all this information. So when we looked at the ancient
book of Lamentations in the context of, say, the siege of Sarajevo, it
seemed incredibly relevant. It’s someone reacting to terrible events in
the history of Jerusalem (destruction of the temple, rape, exile, people
eating rats and dogs, even women eating their children) by writing quite
a formal lament. It seems to us that our culture needs ways to lament;
that with our emphasis on progress, life and the future we can harm ourselves
by leaving no room for mourning. I don’t think either the book or the
album particularly blames God for all this - these are simply the facts,
and you feel this stuff in your guts as much as think about it".
The most impressive track of the concept album is without any doubt "The
Sea" where the group put in the prophet clothes claiming themselves for
a catastrophe of epic dimensions as unique possible way to come out from
the disease of modern life. "The Sea is an attempt to get inside the head
of a prophet. Actually I think the original book of Lamentations does
try to extract some hope for the future from the dreadful events of the
present, but in some ways that seems a bit of a copout. There is a strand
to the prophet’s thinking which says, "These things are so terrible that
no-one should ever have seen them" The only way the prophet (who is also
a survivor, much like the survivors of the concentration camps) can cope
with this knowledge is to imagine himself swallowed up by the sea. Only
something as vast and impersonal as the sea can cleanse away the terribleness
of war and siege. Another strand which I have picked up from holocaust
survivors is that of guilt - "Why should I still be alive when people
better and worthier than me suffered and died?". So there’s an irrational
and quite self-destructive streak to these people. But The Sea is also
a call to people to look at themselves, and to react to it all, even angrily,
so in a sense it’s got that challenging element, rather than being entirely
hopeless".
"I
still cling to this belief that lots of people yearn for something
deeper than popular music: they just don't know where to get it!"
Charlie
Irvine
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Surely
a message of so deep contents is of difficult understanding and sheerness
for an audience anaesthetised from a popular music too lazy and distracted
to make start to look inside themselves. "There is very little room for
stuff like us in the way pop music is marketed. At the same time I still
cling to this belief that lots of people yearn for something deeper from
popular music: they just don’t know where to get it! Once folk stumble
across something like LDL they are often very committed to what we do.
And there has been a tremendous groundswell of interest in this country
in music like that of Henri Gorecki and Arvo Part, who are dealing with
deeper, more spiritual issues. I also think someone like Nick Cave follows
his own path and has a great deal of integrity."
The
atmosphere of lyrics and the score of music suspended on a magic equilibrium
between melancholy and strength obviously reminds the only group able
to shake our conscience with simple pop songs: the Blue Nile. Once I suggest
this comparison Charlie starts: "This makes me chuckle a bit. Paul Buchanan
is a pop star, even if he also a bit of a tortured artist! Actually the
comparison is not all that just, because he is the singer and sole lyric
writer in the Blue Nile, whereas LDL is much more of a collective. Steve
is the singer, but the three of us very much write together, with probably
as many of the lyrics coming from me as him. It’s fair to say that we
are fans of the Blue Nile. I think they have been a big influence on us
in the way that they use space and have that unhurried feel to their albums.
Perhaps the biggest musical difference is that we are much more electric.
Our four studio albums have been a big rock production (which we hated),
a stripped down, ambient keyboard album, a live acoustic recording, and
a more Talk Talk-ish "real" sounds production with guitar, bass and drums".It
is curious how bands that use to produce albums of outstanding quality
but hidden to the main part of people seem to feel a sort of confraternity
among them. It is sure that Lamentations has probably more in common with
the dark atmosphere of "the Laughing Stock" than with the radiance of
Peace at Last.
The
feeling that LDL belong to a world apart gets deeper when speaking about
Glasgow and the well-known "Scottish spirit". "The grey streets of Glasgow
are where my heart is, but probably not Steve’s. I’m not sure about Dot.
We've lived in London, then in Bristol, where we all shared a house for
4 years, then in Ayrshire, before Dot and I returned to the city. Of course
you can’t hide your Scottishness. I do believe there is a melodic sensibility,
which the Scots have and you can hear it right across Scottish music.
The most direct Scottish connection is that we spent a week on the island
of Iona writing the songs for the Human Dress album. It is beautiful,
remote and tiny island where the wind whips in from the Atlantic and you
are surrounded by sea, and I think the space was quite inspiring. But
then again Flying Kite s
was mostly written on a holiday in Brittany and Lamentations came about
in our house in Ayrshire."
In
Lamentations one of the few contacts with the golden world of business
music is given by the presence of Ewan Vernal, ex-member of disintegrated
Deacon Blue. "Ewan Vernal is an old friend actually. He used to play with
a mutual friend‘s band, called "Rattling the cage", before he joined Deacon
Blue. Now he lives quite close to the studio and he’s basically one of
the best bass players in the country, so it was great to set him loose
in our songs."
Popular
music, new age, melancholy, happiness, LDL’s music swirls through the
different genres avoiding any possible classification and leaving on the
listener a feeling of something higher. "Every band in the world likes
to flatter themselves that their music defies categories! I suppose I
would call it "unhurried, ambient misery-pop with dashes of redemption".
It’s certainly not soul or jazz. I’ve said already that Talk Talk have
been a big influence, in terms of the way their recordings sound. I think
there's also quite classical influence, particularly in some of the chordings
that we use- Steve listens to nothing else, and Dot is very taken with
the work of Arvo Part from Estonia. I’m more of guitar man myself- I grew
up on the Stones, and I don’t think you can get beyond a good Keef riff."
In
addition to the particular musical atmosphere Lamentations is obviously
related to literature. There is a song inspired to a poem by Blake. "Well
I guess we all read! The Blake poem was actually suggested to us by a
friend, and the song is a setting for her wedding. I think Lamentations
was very formed by our reading around other stuff-books on the Holocaust
for example, or the work of Primo Levi, who is a wonderful Italian writer.
I also had the opportunity recently to work on an attempt to do a modern
setting of some of the psalms. Some of the people in the group were very
inspiring and one guy in particular, a poet called Harry Smart, brought
a great deal of literary discipline to what we did. The whole idea of
ruthlessly editing and re-editing your work is quite hard for young songwriters,
but I now see it as essential."
Lamentations
can lead to the wrong conclusion that LDL are a group totally devoted
to pessimism, thing that is not shared by Irvine. "We are optimist definitely,
with strong pessimistic streaks! I think I’m quite naive about people
and always expect the best of them. At the same time I can get very gloomy
about the future of the world! I suppose it’s all big picture versus small
picture stuff."
It
is funny to ask Charlie if there is any possibility of see LDL in Italy
as, for the moment, no one has been interested even in distributing their
records in our country. "We have played a few gigs at the end of June-
a couple in London and one in Glasgow. We’re doing one in Glasgow in October
in the middle of the night. That’s it I’m afraid. Touring is a tricky
logistical problem now that Dot and I have a little girl. She’s also called
Charlie and she’s just turned three, so it’s hard to take her with us,
but hard to leave her as well! Maybe one day."
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