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RS
Do you feel like a "pop" writer, or maybe something else?
I feel I definitely work within the "pop" tradition and would have
found it laughable up until a few years ago even being asked this question,
but now would admit that elements of the Bathers music is as close to
some of the classical things I do like i.e. the more accessible Chopin
piano pieces, Mahler’s slow string movements as opposed to the loud, brass
stuff.
RS What
has changed since the Friends Again era?
I couldn’t believe we’d actually landed a major deal with Friends
Again and with hindsight think we were a little overwhelmed and squandered
a good opportunity. The record company in tandem with the producer encouraged
us to "bland out" the recorded versions and lose some of the energy of
our original demos and live shows. It was a hard lesson in the politics
of the music industry. When I embarked on the Bathers odissey it was with
the intention of following my own vision, for better or worse, right the
way through. The Bloomsday project was beset by similar problems as the
Friends Again experience and seemed to lack the creative vision and impetus
that has been evident on Bathers album. I think the "melancholy" aspect
is just the one that comes most naturally to me. Sometimes I could "do"
joy more readily but you can only play with the hand you have been dealt.
RS Where
does your songwriting come from?
I had no formal training whatsoever. Although since I wrote much of
"Sweet Deceit" on the piano I began to apply myself laboriously by a mixture
of listening to cd’s and sheet music as I coulnd’t read music. We always
had Beatles records in the house so I grew up with them before getting
into Bowie and a little later punk. The punk explosion gave me the nerve
to have a go with almost no technical knowledge. Over the years I have
become a bit more "skilled", which has allowed me to broaden the sweep
of the music. Indeed I remember at our first concert being very alarmed
when a "helpful" member of the audience asked us if we would like him
to tune up for us. I vividly remember the audience clapping with deep
irony when our woeful drummer first managed a cymbal crash about twenty
minutes in the "set".
RS What
comes first: the lyrics or the music?
The two are often developed quite separately and as I take notes of
lyric ideas I often don’t know where they’ll end up. Almost invariably
the music is completed before I complete the lyric.
RS What
is inspiration according to Chris Thomson?
Inspiration can be frustratingly slow in coming around but when it
does it’s often possible to write a lot in a short space of time. Many
things can be inspiring. Most commonly love, of course ("In all its faded
splendour…in all its raging glory"), but also literature (Proust, particularly
on the first album), films and odd "one offs" such as the death of Audrey
Hepburn ("Easter for Edda Van Heemstra"), pets ("Two cats on the piano"),
nostalgia for childhood ("Thru’ the old Holmwood), etc.
RS What
can you tell me about Liz Frazier guesting on your album?
Liz has incredible talent and I viewed it as an incredible stroke
of good fortune that she was so into working on the album [Sunpowder].
I really can’t think of many singers who would have fitted so gracefully
into the Bathers world.
RS And
James Grant?
James and I had to laugh when we recorded his guitar for that track
because it was so like a Friends Again approach. We always had a "It’s
time for the past, picky guitar" moment on those old sessions. It still
surprises me how brilliant James’ playing was so early in his career…
way ahead of the rest of us. My songwriting has probably been generally
ahead of my delivery.
RS Speaking
of inspiration again. Is folk music some of it?
Hadn’t consciously thought of a folk influence. Perhaps "Weem Rock
Muse" is the most obvious example. I think the most direct influences
for that track were "Blood on the tracks" and "Astral Weeks".
RS But
women definitely are…
I think this goes hand in hand with the romanticised vision of European
cities which has also been a feature of my work… these "impossibly fragrant
women" populating the "cinemas, coffee houses, golden buildings, empty
streets"… I guess it celebrates those fleeting moments when that romantic
ideal becomes reality.
RS What
about Glasgow?
I love many aspects of Glasgow and hate others. The contrast between
the opulent splendour of many of the buildings and the ugly drabness of
much of the building of the post-war period. The negative points have
been amply documented… Glasgow is often castigated out of sheer ignorance
by people in the South who are blissfully unaware that the suburban deserts
they inhabit are infinitely poorer environments to live in. I have tended
to concentrate on the positives.
RS Do
you think the Postcard scene is something that belongs to you?
The Postcard scene was certainly very inspiring in the early Eighties.
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions probably realised their potential far more
than their contemporaries in the immediate aftermath. The Blue Nile are
a group I admire along with much of the Cocteau Twins’ output… particularly
"Treasure", "Blue Bell Knoll" and bits of "Four Calendar Cafe". I also
thought the opening track of Paul Quinn’s last album "Will I Ever Be Inside
Of You" was brilliant in its mad ambition.
RS Which
is your favourite book? And film?
For sheer impact at the time I would have to include "A la recherche
du Temps Perdu" and "Lolita". Though ultimately there are many books I’ve
enjoyed just as much. Likewise films, though I might single out "Roman
Holiday" and "Breakfast At Tiffany’s" as well as penchant for the better
Woody Allen movies and a few "epics" such as "Doctor Zhivago", "Death
In Venice", "Once Upon A Time In America".
RS The
music of the Bathers is rather emotional. How can you convey the same
atmosphere on stage?
The concert experience is of course very different and what is probably
most difficult is to produce the emotional "charge" that is present on
most of the recordings i.e. making it heartfelt when you will almost certainly
be in a completely different frame of mind.
RS Any
chances of seeing you in Italy, some time?
Our keyboard player - Carlo Scattini - has relatives near Lucca, so
we hope to make a trip there this year. Concerts would be great but we
normally take eight musicians on stage so it would have to be a stripped
down version!
RS What
are you up to now?
I’m currently writing new material with a view to recording a new
album at the end of February.
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